Aug 25 13:10:31 I guess we'll start. Aug 25 13:10:40 yay Aug 25 13:10:45 :) Aug 25 13:10:46 w00t Aug 25 13:10:48 * Skizzerz isn't bothering to post a log of this Aug 25 13:10:51 All this is is an opportunity to get together and discuss any issues that are unresolved. Aug 25 13:10:58 or the thursday one, for that matter Aug 25 13:11:09 mine needs either ech or ness >.< Aug 25 13:11:14 * Rocky waited an hour for this?? Aug 25 13:11:19 lol Aug 25 13:11:22 Before we begin, I wanted to announce an organizational change. Aug 25 13:11:24 Ness, should be here. Aug 25 13:11:28 lol Aug 25 13:11:29 Lemme see if I can get him. Aug 25 13:11:46 organization change, ness should be here? Aug 25 13:12:05 Well, he's part of it Aug 25 13:12:17 Seems to be afk atm. Aug 25 13:12:30 OK, well, todays meeting not withstanding, Aug 25 13:12:48 it's obvious to quite a few that echelon has not been ablt to attend all of the planned meetings. Aug 25 13:12:59 (Today's absense was planned) Aug 25 13:13:16 So, I spoke with echelon, along with sakurina, Aug 25 13:13:40 and, although the details haven't been formalize yet, Aug 25 13:14:00 Sakurina and I are going to serve as assistants within each site. Aug 25 13:14:12 Obviously, myself for SW, and Sakurina for abxy Aug 25 13:14:23 This doesn't mean anything about power or control. Aug 25 13:14:35 It simply to serve as a liason to echelon. Aug 25 13:14:50 Sakurina and I report to both echelon, and to the community. Aug 25 13:15:19 So, my presense here is in echelon's place, and anytime that he can not attend. Aug 25 13:15:29 Obviously, his input is more valuable then mine, Aug 25 13:15:34 but if I'm doing my job right, Aug 25 13:15:56 It will be as though he is here, and answers that need to come from him will in fact come, if not somewhat delayed. Aug 25 13:16:09 Either from him, or myself. Aug 25 13:16:55 This has been implemented to ensure that important events are not delayed due to anyone absense. Aug 25 13:17:18 anyone's. Aug 25 13:17:58 If I or anyone else is not doing an adequate job as an assistant, you all should feel free to communicate your concerns to echelon. Aug 25 13:18:08 I only hold this position with everyone's approval. Aug 25 13:18:43 So... that's it on that, unless anyone has any comments. Aug 25 13:18:43 ? Aug 25 13:18:54 * Prod agrees not to kill the messenger :) Aug 25 13:18:57 lol Aug 25 13:19:09 sounds good to me Aug 25 13:19:23 * Rocky just wants the meeting to start Aug 25 13:19:26 The idea was to pick someone that has frequent contact with both echelon, and the community. Aug 25 13:19:31 Rocky, it started... Aug 25 13:19:45 Rocky, thar was the meeting. :) Aug 25 13:19:47 that Aug 25 13:19:51 oh Aug 25 13:19:56 Well, it's not over. Aug 25 13:19:58 Just that topic. Aug 25 13:20:01 :) Aug 25 13:20:03 kk Aug 25 13:20:43 OK, Aug 25 13:20:54 the floor is open to any concerns that anyone has. Aug 25 13:20:58 If there aren't any, Aug 25 13:21:08 we can have live discussions about the open topics on C.I. Aug 25 13:21:17 CI? Aug 25 13:21:23 comminity issues Aug 25 13:21:27 ok Aug 25 13:21:50 * Notmyhandle has joined #SW-Meeting Aug 25 13:21:57 Hey SMH Aug 25 13:22:01 ack, NMH Aug 25 13:22:07 Harro Aug 25 13:22:13 OK... Aug 25 13:22:28 Just checking, Duke, Skiz... are you with us? Aug 25 13:22:34 yep Aug 25 13:22:36 kinda Aug 25 13:22:37 OK Aug 25 13:22:56 multitasking with my reskin atm :) Aug 25 13:22:57 Skiz, do you have any comments for us concerning the new users committee? I know this is sudden. Aug 25 13:22:58 Is Ech coming? Aug 25 13:23:04 No, he is not. Aug 25 13:23:26 i'm here Aug 25 13:23:31 multitasking as well Aug 25 13:23:51 um, we could use a few more people to help welcome other people and revert their vandalisms/tests and put the appropriate message on their talk page. Other than that, I think it's fine as of now Aug 25 13:23:56 * DrGaellon is multitasking too, and besides, as the new kid on the block, hasn't much to say Aug 25 13:24:11 * Procyon gives voice to Notmyhandle Aug 25 13:24:27 allow me to clarify: tests OUTSIDE of their user space or the sandbox Aug 25 13:24:35 Right Aug 25 13:24:48 Well, considering that you're talking to the core, Aug 25 13:25:00 you'll need to "advertise" outside of here to get those users. Aug 25 13:25:07 Well all we need are users like DG - nonsysop volunteers Aug 25 13:25:14 But yes, "recruiting" is required Aug 25 13:25:28 yeah Aug 25 13:25:40 I wish that in addition to the Staff Lounge, we had the "Staff Bulletin Board" or seomthing... Aug 25 13:25:42 I would put up an announcement, but that kinda got moved off the front page :P Aug 25 13:26:07 oh, and while I'm on the front page, how's the server load now? Aug 25 13:26:18 Proc: You mean Aug 25 13:26:20 Staff only right Aug 25 13:26:22 You'll get to ask the man himself in a minute. Aug 25 13:26:24 woohoo! ness ist hier Aug 25 13:26:40 staff bulletin board would go on the community portal Aug 25 13:26:43 and I didn't really get recruited, NMH. I jumped in when I saw a need, since I know Wiki stuff Aug 25 13:26:49 NMH: No, not only for the staff. Aug 25 13:26:54 oh ok Aug 25 13:26:59 NMH: But from the staff to the community. Aug 25 13:27:08 DG I never said you did. But you're a prime choice. Aug 25 13:27:19 http://strategywiki.org/wiki/StrategyWiki:Community_Portal << announcements are here Aug 25 13:27:34 Prod: Are we stuck with that name? Aug 25 13:27:45 why not? Aug 25 13:27:53 * ness has joined #SW-Meeting Aug 25 13:27:53 I dunno... Aug 25 13:27:56 hey ness Aug 25 13:28:00 Hey everyone. Aug 25 13:28:02 I don't think that it attracts many readers. Aug 25 13:28:08 Hey ness. Aug 25 13:28:18 Hey, before you drill ness with server questions, Aug 25 13:28:25 There's another part of the announcement. Aug 25 13:28:53 ness, I told people that sakurina and I are acting as echelon's assistants in his place for abxy and SW respectively. Aug 25 13:29:01 You are also part of this shift. Aug 25 13:29:09 You are the server assistant :) Aug 25 13:29:29 If you accept at least. Aug 25 13:29:40 :) Aug 25 13:30:04 Sure, I suppose. Aug 25 13:30:15 * Prod wonders how that changes anything :P Aug 25 13:30:20 Assistant has a little unhappy connotation to it though Aug 25 13:30:26 I'd prefer server guy :P Aug 25 13:30:30 Prod, in all honesty, it doesn't. Aug 25 13:30:33 ness is our CIO Aug 25 13:30:39 er Aug 25 13:30:41 CTO? Aug 25 13:30:46 ?? CEO??? Aug 25 13:30:53 Prod, but the idea to to lessen the impact of echelon's unavailability Aug 25 13:31:05 no CTO Aug 25 13:31:05 No, not CEO Aug 25 13:31:06 There's no need to conceit the organization with such formal names of positions Aug 25 13:31:11 i kno Aug 25 13:31:11 CTO is more like it. Aug 25 13:31:20 But it does help. Aug 25 13:31:28 If you want to look at it that way, Aug 25 13:31:32 yeah, there really isn't a CEO here... besides MAYBE ech Aug 25 13:31:34 Echelon is the president of the organization, Aug 25 13:31:39 * Dukeruckley will just call him the goto man for servers Aug 25 13:31:50 * Rocky has quit (Quit: Abxy.org ~ the best gaming community anywhere ~) Aug 25 13:31:59 * Skizzerz is... just kinda here Aug 25 13:32:18 * Rocky has joined #SW-Meeting Aug 25 13:32:26 and ness is the VP of tech :) Aug 25 13:32:37 Echelon has called many shots, but in the past other people have also, and you'd think it'd require the authority from a president position when it did not... Aug 25 13:32:42 * Procyon gives channel operator status to ness Aug 25 13:32:42 * Procyon gives voice to Rocky Aug 25 13:33:03 Like I said, I'm not really for the thrown around business terms... we're better off a team than an organization Aug 25 13:33:04 * Rocky pressed backspace :( Aug 25 13:33:07 I'm not trying to establish a hierarchy at all. Aug 25 13:33:26 I know, Aug 25 13:33:27 But in an emergency, you know who to turn to. Aug 25 13:33:41 hierarchies are needed to keep things running smoothly :/ Aug 25 13:33:58 A little. Aug 25 13:33:58 though it's hard to imagine a true "emergency" arising with SW Aug 25 13:34:05 lol, you'd be surprised :) Aug 25 13:34:14 In all honesty, sakurina has the harder position. Aug 25 13:34:20 That would be whoever is online :P In a real emergency, you can't assume that just because someone has the name "CEO" or such that he will always be online to handle the situation, solely because he's CEO Aug 25 13:34:22 or server guy Aug 25 13:34:33 I'm an MD. I have a different definition of "emergency," Proc. :) Aug 25 13:34:45 ness, it's OK :) Aug 25 13:34:50 DrG: lol, true. Aug 25 13:34:54 OK, Aug 25 13:34:57 if anyone is going to have an emergency, it'll be the server technician Aug 25 13:35:03 We're better off educating all people in how to deal with emergency than to keep it in a black box with a select few knowing what to do Aug 25 13:35:15 * Notmyhandle agrees. Aug 25 13:35:26 (ness): yes, but someone has to be the "expert" Aug 25 13:35:29 ness, how can you educate people how to fix our server? Aug 25 13:36:26 Prod, is it safe to say that the Category renaming unresolved issue is resolved? Aug 25 13:36:39 Fixing the server is not an emergency - it's what happens when an emergency is being dealt with. And emergency encompasses more than just server problems... there are many other things that could happen Aug 25 13:37:10 If you'd like to discuss protocol for emergency, fixing the server would be only a part of the protocol Aug 25 13:37:16 or getting help ASAP with it. Aug 25 13:37:38 ness, we have to work on your accepting a position with grace :) Aug 25 13:37:41 on the community portal can we move announcements to the top left? Aug 25 13:37:53 (Notmyhandle): that's what i was thinking as well Aug 25 13:38:20 I'm just as guilty to not speak as much and to shove it down your throat in a meeting that's supposed to be progressive Aug 25 13:38:21 actually Aug 25 13:38:32 i'd say switch "announcements" with "ways you can help" Aug 25 13:39:03 But in true honesty, I think emergencies are a non-issue at the moment Aug 25 13:39:08 And if recent activity is on the front page, Aug 25 13:39:14 why do we need it in CP? Aug 25 13:39:27 yeah, but what will we repace it w/ Aug 25 13:39:28 i put it there because the previous content never changed Aug 25 13:39:34 we don't? Aug 25 13:39:35 Community portal is all about collaboration Aug 25 13:39:49 i'd say get rid of the "Most popular guides" from CP Aug 25 13:39:54 yes, but if people are smart enough to find the Community Portal, they'll know about Recent Changes Aug 25 13:40:04 not really Aug 25 13:40:11 CP is linked right under the main page Aug 25 13:40:22 no... not at all Aug 25 13:40:22 both are in the sidebar Aug 25 13:40:40 recent changes is overwhelming for some people Aug 25 13:40:45 RC is three spots down from CP Aug 25 13:40:49 they may visit once, and then leave Aug 25 13:41:01 community portal has had 15,992 views Aug 25 13:41:02 yeah, but too many DPLs kill the server Aug 25 13:41:10 i barely ever go there Aug 25 13:41:15 Who says we need four boxes? Why not three? Aug 25 13:41:21 balance Aug 25 13:41:21 or five? Aug 25 13:41:24 No, Aug 25 13:41:27 no, Aug 25 13:41:28 1 on top, Aug 25 13:41:29 2 on the bottom. Aug 25 13:41:36 4 Aug 25 13:41:36 1 long one... Aug 25 13:41:36 [] [] Aug 25 13:41:36 [] [] Aug 25 13:41:36 [ ] Aug 25 13:41:40 nah Aug 25 13:41:48 I was thinking: Aug 25 13:41:50 u don't normally scroll down Aug 25 13:41:50 [ ] Aug 25 13:41:51 er, you know what I meant Aug 25 13:41:52 [] [] Aug 25 13:41:56 maybe we can replace the DPLs with a projects box? Aug 25 13:42:02 possibly Aug 25 13:42:03 yeah Aug 25 13:42:03 I know what Prod is thinking... Aug 25 13:42:05 (.) (.) Aug 25 13:42:13 >_> Aug 25 13:42:20 lol, come on, admit it. Aug 25 13:42:25 * Prod kicks Procyon Aug 25 13:42:30 You're always thinking that ^_^ Aug 25 13:43:08 * Prod updates CP Aug 25 13:43:13 lol Aug 25 13:43:27 one reason CP doesn't get as many views Aug 25 13:43:31 is because we don't focus on it Aug 25 13:43:47 when was the last time someone said "check out the CP" Aug 25 13:43:47 do we really need it? Aug 25 13:43:49 yeah i've never edited it Aug 25 13:44:16 I think it can serve a useful purpose if we utilize it correctly. Aug 25 13:44:39 Agreed... do you have anything in mind Scott? Aug 25 13:44:51 If we were to "get rid of it" and redirect to the comm issue - I don't think that would be good Aug 25 13:44:52 By the way, Procyon == scott, me == Dany, just so you all know :) Aug 25 13:44:58 Scott* Aug 25 13:44:59 Well, like I as Prod earlier, Aug 25 13:45:10 Are we _stuck_ with the name Community Portal? Aug 25 13:45:14 WAY too many Dan's @ SW Aug 25 13:45:17 dany=dan? Aug 25 13:45:24 Yes Aug 25 13:45:27 Cuz really, who enters a site, and wants to visit a Community Portal? Aug 25 13:45:29 Brandon opts to call me Dan. Aug 25 13:45:37 * Prod goes by msn :) Aug 25 13:45:37 That's unlike any other site I've seen. Aug 25 13:45:47 CP rearranged Aug 25 13:45:49 not me Aug 25 13:45:52 If I could rename it, Aug 25 13:46:03 watch out about the talk page Aug 25 13:46:03 Announcements Aug 25 13:46:08 I might call it... "The Lounge" or something. Aug 25 13:46:18 what about the talk page?? Aug 25 13:46:19 And put the Staff Lounge as the Talk page to the lounge. Aug 25 13:46:19 The Wall Aug 25 13:46:25 I kinda like what http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:Community_Portal have done with theirs Aug 25 13:46:32 procyon: i like that idea Aug 25 13:46:32 lemme see Aug 25 13:47:26 Prod, we could do so much better than that,. Aug 25 13:47:31 yes Aug 25 13:47:32 Our organization ideas are good, Aug 25 13:47:38 but our content needs improvement. Aug 25 13:47:43 but it has some useful "features" Aug 25 13:47:45 Guys I have a great idea Aug 25 13:47:49 we should have an image that spans the left side Aug 25 13:47:55 and it's just a row of repeating arrows Aug 25 13:48:00 so people are inclined to scroll down Aug 25 13:48:05 no Aug 25 13:48:06 no.... Aug 25 13:48:06 Ta da! Aug 25 13:48:08 ='( Aug 25 13:48:09 that would be ugly Aug 25 13:48:23 * Garrett has joined #SW-Meeting Aug 25 13:48:29 hmm Aug 25 13:48:33 i think that a Lounge with talk page as staff lounge is good Aug 25 13:48:34 * Procyon gives channel operator status to Garrett Aug 25 13:48:40 would it be possible to include a toc for the talk page on the regular page? Aug 25 13:48:53 and then we can have community issues as its own page (with a talk page) Aug 25 13:49:09 Prod: no. Aug 25 13:49:35 didn't think so :( Aug 25 13:49:39 hmm... Aug 25 13:50:40 ci is a talk page... Aug 25 13:50:48 it's meant for dicussion Aug 25 13:50:50 I'm not sure how to make cp more appealing... Aug 25 13:50:57 Unless we put a link to it on the front page. Aug 25 13:51:04 no... Aug 25 13:51:09 i know that, but what i'm saying is that we can have a main page of perhaps a list of things to discuss... Aug 25 13:51:11 eh, the main page is at critical mass already. :P Aug 25 13:51:13 i dunno, maybe not; Aug 25 13:51:19 No, I agree, it is. Aug 25 13:51:26 yeah Aug 25 13:51:46 well, lets structure this, what do we _need_ Aug 25 13:51:48 I just wish there was a bit of a site map that made CP more appealing. Aug 25 13:51:52 and what do we _have_ Aug 25 13:52:36 Well, Aug 25 13:52:42 this whole conversation started Aug 25 13:52:54 when Skiz said he needed to attract more people to his committee. Aug 25 13:52:57 The question became: Aug 25 13:53:09 How does he go about doing that in the most efficient manner? Aug 25 13:53:20 i actually think we have enough people welcoming Aug 25 13:53:25 could we put community portal in the welcome message? Aug 25 13:53:55 We certainly could, but after the first visit, what compels them to return? Aug 25 13:54:13 OK, here's a thought. Aug 25 13:54:38 Remember how I kind of chewed out superpoweredmario about his Mario Party 6 question, and then Skiz REALLY chewed him out? Aug 25 13:54:49 :P Aug 25 13:54:52 yeah Aug 25 13:54:53 What if on that CP page, there was a request-for-help page? Aug 25 13:55:12 Superpoweredmario could use that to say, "Anyone who wants to help with MP6, contact me," Aug 25 13:55:13 nice Aug 25 13:55:18 yeah, maybe Aug 25 13:55:28 that's what the requested guides page was for, wasn't it? Aug 25 13:55:31 although that wasn't the reason why I chewed him out :) Aug 25 13:55:32 we need to also advertize the requested guide feature Aug 25 13:55:33 and Skiz could use it to say, "Anyone who wants to help welcome new members, contact me." Aug 25 13:55:39 lol Aug 25 13:55:43 Not preciesly... Aug 25 13:55:50 oh Aug 25 13:55:54 i see what you ean Aug 25 13:55:56 how would we implement this though? Aug 25 13:55:57 mean * Aug 25 13:56:07 have a list of admins to contact Aug 25 13:56:13 A requested guide page (which I'm not in favor of) is a way for someone to say, "I want someone ELSE to work on this FOR me." Aug 25 13:56:15 by section Aug 25 13:56:20 or interest Aug 25 13:56:25 proc, it's already there Aug 25 13:56:38 I know that Rocky ¬_¬ Aug 25 13:56:39 where? Aug 25 13:56:50 I'm still not in favor of it. Aug 25 13:56:57 dunno Aug 25 13:57:18 http://strategywiki.org/wiki/StrategyWiki:Requested_guides Aug 25 13:57:26 linked from CP Aug 25 13:57:40 with this bulletin idea, would we let just anyone edit it? Aug 25 13:57:43 lol i don't think i've ever seen that page.... Aug 25 13:57:51 when SW gets bigger, that'll be a big problem i think Aug 25 13:58:34 Duke, CP could repost the page, and the page itself could be editable. Aug 25 13:59:01 Sorry... transclude. Aug 25 13:59:06 * You are now known as Skizzerz_Away Aug 25 13:59:17 Skizz can fly? Aug 25 13:59:18 why not sysops only? Aug 25 13:59:23 xD Aug 25 13:59:35 ok, but then when we have a lot of people wanting to post, what then? Aug 25 13:59:43 talk page?? Aug 25 13:59:48 shoutbox? Aug 25 14:00:04 Duke: I see your point... Aug 25 14:00:14 Yes! Prod, that's what I'm thinking of. Aug 25 14:00:24 You'd see the top 3 or 4 requests, Aug 25 14:00:36 and you'd have to visit the page to see them all. Aug 25 14:00:42 i like that Aug 25 14:00:55 we may have to make something special for that though Aug 25 14:01:10 hmm Aug 25 14:01:12 maybe no Aug 25 14:01:12 t Aug 25 14:01:20 we don't get that much vandalism right now Aug 25 14:01:27 so if we transclude it to the CP page Aug 25 14:01:32 I know several of the Pokemon sites have shoutboxes, but they're not wikis Aug 25 14:01:46 yeah any1 could vandalise the main page now Aug 25 14:02:14 well, for the record, the granddaddy wiki, WikiPedia, refuses to protect their mainpage Aug 25 14:02:17 It's not predicted. Aug 25 14:02:27 it is Aug 25 14:02:37 wikipedia's main page has cascading protection Aug 25 14:02:43 ok, so to clarify, what four boxes would we have for the CP? Aug 25 14:02:59 you can get past that because of the transwiki'd images on commons Aug 25 14:03:04 wtf did I type? protected... Aug 25 14:03:16 lol Aug 25 14:03:19 I was wondering... Aug 25 14:03:41 WP's Main Page DOES have protection. :P Aug 25 14:03:49 i said that Aug 25 14:04:03 but commons means u can still get images on it Aug 25 14:04:15 no, they locally upload images that are being featured. Aug 25 14:04:19 they is smart. :P Aug 25 14:04:21 not always Aug 25 14:04:26 trust me Aug 25 14:04:39 * Garrett has teh admin powahs, anyways. Aug 25 14:04:42 quite a few times they forget Aug 25 14:05:17 so for the CP we'd have: Announcements, Collaboration of the Month, Ways you can help, and the shoutbox? Aug 25 14:05:18 lol Garrett risks his adminship by vandalising the main page of Wikipedia with advertisements for SW Aug 25 14:05:27 LOL Aug 25 14:05:30 just his user opage Aug 25 14:05:34 LOL Aug 25 14:05:54 also, can u post myth's fc, he wants a battle on wifi Aug 25 14:06:13 and can't get an email address to post on forums Aug 25 14:06:41 abxy signup is fixed now, apparently. Aug 25 14:06:50 although this is like the third time they've said that. :P Aug 25 14:07:34 so do u need an email address still Aug 25 14:08:24 * Dukeruckley thinks we're off topic again :) Aug 25 14:08:34 ummm... I don't know. Aug 25 14:08:43 A little, but its OK. Aug 25 14:08:46 how can we be on topic without echelon? :P Aug 25 14:09:00 BACK ON TOPIC Aug 25 14:09:01 yeah Aug 25 14:09:11 We're coming up with a lot of ideas, but not a lot of action items. Aug 25 14:09:31 so what's the topic Aug 25 14:09:39 FORUMS FORUMS FORUMS :P Aug 25 14:09:42 ahem. Aug 25 14:09:46 * Prod kicks Garrett Aug 25 14:09:48 ugh Aug 25 14:09:54 * Procyon gives channel half-operator status to Prod Aug 25 14:09:55 thanks for the hops Procyon! Aug 25 14:10:04 * Prod has changed the topic to: Current Topic: Community Portal Aug 25 14:10:19 Can we generate any action items at this time? Aug 25 14:10:35 i don't think we have a big enough community to make use of it yet Aug 25 14:10:40 i agree Aug 25 14:10:44 perhaps consider adding a shoutbox Aug 25 14:10:58 or an inline look into the #StrategyWiki irc channel Aug 25 14:11:03 I have an idea... Aug 25 14:11:16 after an hour Aug 25 14:11:16 Skiz, you can rotate things on a page randomly, right? Aug 25 14:11:23 (Procyon): not yet Aug 25 14:11:27 that's a dirty hack Aug 25 14:11:28 whazza-wha? Aug 25 14:11:40 What if people made their own request pages under a request sub-dir, Aug 25 14:11:52 then Skiz could randomly rotate those requests on the page. Aug 25 14:12:02 * Skizzerz_Away is away-ish... PLEASE DO NOT HILITE HIM! (that includes 'Skiz' and 'Skizz') Aug 25 14:12:05 shoutbox, eh. Aug 25 14:12:08 lol Aug 25 14:12:17 i think we should try to avoid anything that invalidates the page cashe on those pages Aug 25 14:12:38 yeah, no rotation Aug 25 14:12:43 ok Aug 25 14:13:09 why don't we put up a projects box in place of the DPL for now... until we can figure out the requests thing Aug 25 14:13:23 links to Move Lists, Clean Up, and Achievements Aug 25 14:13:35 that seems like a good collaborative thing to me Aug 25 14:13:38 can we have a bot do the rotating?? Aug 25 14:13:43 like once a day Aug 25 14:14:24 it can be done with magic words Aug 25 14:14:32 {{CURRENTDAY}} or whatever Aug 25 14:16:51 Well, Aug 25 14:17:01 I think that we're running out of steam. Aug 25 14:17:33 so no to the projects thing? Aug 25 14:17:46 i just realised, we're ranked 7,195th in the US Aug 25 14:17:59 I know, how fricken awesome is that? Aug 25 14:18:13 and 560th in new zealand Aug 25 14:18:25 we used to be top 400 in NZ Aug 25 14:18:39 yeah, still good tho Aug 25 14:18:43 in top 1000 Aug 25 14:18:46 so Aug 25 14:18:56 resolution is: do nothing for now with the CP? Aug 25 14:18:56 so... Aug 25 14:19:08 or do we say yes to a shoutbox? Aug 25 14:19:19 Can the shoutbox be implemented? Aug 25 14:19:22 not sure Aug 25 14:19:23 if we can implement it Aug 25 14:19:49 For the most part, shoutboxes are embedded into a page with inline frames or JavaScript. Many Internet forum and weblog software packages can be modified to add shoutboxes in sidebars on site pages. Aug 25 14:20:08 * Dukeruckley tries one more time. If we can't implement it, we should have a projects box instead to bring awareness to them Aug 25 14:20:44 Duke, you're saying on the CP page, correct? Aug 25 14:21:07 * Prod agrees Aug 25 14:21:13 yes Aug 25 14:21:18 I'm cool with that too Aug 25 14:21:21 right Aug 25 14:21:35 so, is that all for now? Aug 25 14:21:40 I don't think the recent changes is doing much good on CP if it's on the front page. Aug 25 14:21:46 just a quick question if I may? Aug 25 14:21:53 i don't think it should be on the front page really Aug 25 14:22:04 (Rocky): was that the question? Aug 25 14:22:11 I think for the moment, we can wrap this meeting up and continue any discussion on CI, Aug 25 14:22:13 the new and updated guides bit is rather arbitrary at the moment. :P Aug 25 14:22:19 Rocky: go ahead. Aug 25 14:22:30 should we protect all the templates on the main page? Aug 25 14:22:32 more stuff to go over :P Aug 25 14:22:39 Garrett: I think the updated guides list just balances out the top guides list. Aug 25 14:22:52 and the sig templates that every1s using Aug 25 14:22:54 oh, definitely. Aug 25 14:23:02 kk, i'll do it Aug 25 14:23:07 But I would be in favor of replacing it with another list. Aug 25 14:23:14 one more thing before we go Aug 25 14:23:24 should we discuss another meeting time/date? Aug 25 14:23:24 kk Aug 25 14:23:32 we already have Aug 25 14:23:39 last sat of every month Aug 25 14:23:53 Yes, Aug 25 14:23:56 ok, i wasn't sure if it was definite or not Aug 25 14:24:00 it is Aug 25 14:24:06 the next meeting would be Sep. 29th Aug 25 14:24:10 hope so... 7PM GMT Aug 25 14:24:15 yes